andys.soulbox

Oh, forgot to mention, he may also be using the ID lookinold so be
careful of that too.

barefoot

2008-05-04 02:42:45 UTC

suem did you put strickler on your xlist?
m

Sue H

2008-05-04 12:51:54 UTC

No, he does not fit the system requirements that I use.

On Sat, 3 May 2008 19:42:45 -0700 (PDT), barefoot

Post by barefoot
suem did you put strickler on your xlist?
m

bob catz

2008-05-04 17:13:10 UTC

You mean Strickler Autographs? His stuff is authentic.

Post by barefoot
suem did you put strickler on your xlist?
m

northfield

2008-05-04 23:22:43 UTC

You mean Strickler Autographs? �His stuff is authentic.

Post by barefoot
suem did you put strickler on your xlist?
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strickler been getting signatures a longtime. nice guy. did lot's of
shows in the 70's and 80's. his wife is an agent - used to work for
william morris agrncy. NF

Sue H

2008-05-05 02:04:20 UTC

He does have some bad items I am afraid though... Looks like he may
have taken them down as I couldn't find them last time but not sure.

On Sun, 4 May 2008 16:22:43 -0700 (PDT), northfield

You mean Strickler Autographs? ?His stuff is authentic.

Post by barefoot
suem did you put strickler on your xlist?
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strickler been getting signatures a longtime. nice guy. did lot's of
shows in the 70's and 80's. his wife is an agent - used to work for
william morris agrncy. NF

Mr Black

2008-05-05 02:06:43 UTC

You mean Strickler Autographs? ?His stuff is authentic.

Post by barefoot
suem did you put strickler on your xlist?
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Post by barefoot
strickler been getting signatures a longtime. nice guy. did lot's of

shows in the 70's and 80's. his wife is an agent - used to work for
william morris agrncy. NF<<

This may be true, but he has stocked a few questionable graphs in the past.
I guess he needs to review his wholesale sources

Mr Black

2008-05-05 02:11:39 UTC

You mean Strickler Autographs? ?His stuff is authentic.

Post by barefoot
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Post by northfield
strickler been getting signatures a longtime. nice guy. did lot's of

shows in the 70's and 80's. his wife is an agent - used to work for
william morris agrncy. NF<<<

......and out of curiosity, would you be his wife, or an employee, posing as
a collector?

MrB

northfield

2008-05-05 06:47:33 UTC

You mean Strickler Autographs? ?His stuff is authentic.

Post by barefoot
suem did you put strickler on your xlist?
m- Hide quoted text -

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strickler been getting signatures a longtime. �nice guy. �did lot's of

shows in the 70's and 80's. �his wife is an agent - used to work for
william morris agrncy. NF<<<
......and out of curiosity, would you be his wife, or an employee, posing as
a collector?
MrB

hi MrB - no, I have known Lon a longtime though through collecting.
he's always been upfront with me. I live in nyc and used to see him a
lot when he was healthy - he is disabled - saw him at a sport
convention in nj about one year ago and he was using an electic chair
to get around. he was with some old ballplayers brooks robinson and
another guy from the yankees I think. his wife used to work for
william morris and is still an attorney. Sharon

northfield

2008-05-05 06:55:23 UTC

You mean Strickler Autographs? ?His stuff is authentic.

Post by barefoot
suem did you put strickler on your xlist?
m- Hide quoted text -

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strickler been getting signatures a longtime. �nice guy. �did lot's of

shows in the 70's and 80's. �his wife is an agent - used to work for
william morris agrncy. NF<<<
......and out of curiosity, would you be his wife, or an employee, posing as
a collector?
MrB

oh sorry - his wife is named Bernie (Bernice?) - not me. Sharon

Mr Black

2008-05-05 11:47:30 UTC

You mean Strickler Autographs? ?His stuff is authentic.

Post by barefoot
suem did you put strickler on your xlist?
m- Hide quoted text -

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strickler been getting signatures a longtime. ?nice guy. ?did lot's of

shows in the 70's and 80's. ?his wife is an agent - used to work for
william morris agrncy. NF<<<
......and out of curiosity, would you be his wife, or an employee, posing as
a collector?
MrB

Post by barefoot
hi MrB - no, I have known Lon a longtime though through collecting.

he's always been upfront with me. I live in nyc and used to see him a
lot when he was healthy - he is disabled - saw him at a sport
convention in nj about one year ago and he was using an electic chair
to get around. he was with some old ballplayers brooks robinson and
another guy from the yankees I think. his wife used to work for
william morris and is still an attorney. Sharon <<<

Sharon, so you are telling me you dont work for him?
Because I have one of your posts to the newsgroup coming from username
"stricklercelebs" at the following email address....
***@aol.com

????????????????

MrB

--

northfield

2008-05-05 13:43:51 UTC

You mean Strickler Autographs? ?His stuff is authentic.

Post by barefoot
suem did you put strickler on your xlist?
m- Hide quoted text -

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strickler been getting signatures a longtime. ?nice guy. ?did lot's of

shows in the 70's and 80's. ?his wife is an agent - used to work for
william morris agrncy. NF<<<
......and out of curiosity, would you be his wife, or an employee, posing as
a collector?
MrB

Post by barefoot
hi MrB - no, I have known Lon a longtime though through collecting.

he's always been upfront with me. �I live in nyc and used to see him a
lot when he was healthy - he is disabled - saw him at a sport
convention in nj about one year ago and he was using an electic chair
to get around. �he was with some old ballplayers brooks robinson and
another guy from the yankees I think. �his wife used to work for
william morris and is still an attorney. Sharon <<<
Sharon, so you are telling me you dont work for him?
Because I have one of your posts to the newsgroup coming from username
"stricklercelebs" at the following email address....
????????????????
MrB
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hi MrB - i was on talk collecting usenet and tried to cut & paste
something strickler posted there on this board but it got screwed up.
I deleted and wrote over - I don't understand how the email got in the
header like that. Sharon

Mr Black

2008-05-05 14:20:05 UTC

You mean Strickler Autographs? ?His stuff is authentic.

Post by barefoot
suem did you put strickler on your xlist?
m- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

strickler been getting signatures a longtime. ?nice guy. ?did lot's of

shows in the 70's and 80's. ?his wife is an agent - used to work for
william morris agrncy. NF<<<
......and out of curiosity, would you be his wife, or an employee,
posing
as
a collector?
MrB

Post by barefoot
hi MrB - no, I have known Lon a longtime though through collecting.

he's always been upfront with me. ?I live in nyc and used to see him a
lot when he was healthy - he is disabled - saw him at a sport
convention in nj about one year ago and he was using an electic chair
to get around. ?he was with some old ballplayers brooks robinson and
another guy from the yankees I think. ?his wife used to work for
william morris and is still an attorney. Sharon <<<
Sharon, so you are telling me you dont work for him?
Because I have one of your posts to the newsgroup coming from username
"stricklercelebs" at the following email address....
????????????????
MrB
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hi MrB - i was on talk collecting usenet and tried to cut & paste

something strickler posted there on this board but it got screwed up.
I deleted and wrote over - I don't understand how the email got in the
header like that. Sharon<<<

...........yeah...................nor do i

Sue H

2008-05-05 14:39:30 UTC

I saw that too. Said their email...

On Mon, 5 May 2008 21:47:30 +1000, "Mr Black"

You mean Strickler Autographs? ?His stuff is authentic.

Post by barefoot
suem did you put strickler on your xlist?
m- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

strickler been getting signatures a longtime. ?nice guy. ?did lot's of

shows in the 70's and 80's. ?his wife is an agent - used to work for
william morris agrncy. NF<<<
......and out of curiosity, would you be his wife, or an employee, posing as
a collector?
MrB

Post by barefoot
hi MrB - no, I have known Lon a longtime though through collecting.

he's always been upfront with me. I live in nyc and used to see him a
lot when he was healthy - he is disabled - saw him at a sport
convention in nj about one year ago and he was using an electic chair
to get around. he was with some old ballplayers brooks robinson and
another guy from the yankees I think. his wife used to work for
william morris and is still an attorney. Sharon <<<
Sharon, so you are telling me you dont work for him?
Because I have one of your posts to the newsgroup coming from username
"stricklercelebs" at the following email address....
????????????????
MrB

barefoot

2008-05-05 17:09:02 UTC

all strickler sells now is forgeries..maybe he was a stand up guy back
when, but he's not now.
sorry to say.

he's posted on this newsgroup, half ass defending himself...but he's
got problems. to be honest with you, i think that he knows he sells
fakes. i told him to double check his source (and i know who his
source is, and he doesn't sell real autographs either.) and he defends
them to the t...

he has another website where he steal images from wireimage and ap and
wherever else he can get them and talks celebrity gossip and then
throws in that people sign here and there, and uses the wireimage
shots to pretend that those autographs are going to him...it's a
crock! he's even posted pictures of me and my employees getting
autographs...he does it to other people too. and he posts some guy
getting autographs in bfe and posts stories of other people getting
autographs so he can lull the customer into thinking," this guy's got
his s@#$ together, he must be selling real stuff!" but he's not...he
gets the stuff from a forger and then sells them for what he thinks is
market value. ever notice he has all the hot new stuff, there's no
junk on there or anything? and if you're a dealer, you have lots of
junk- trust me. and he has plenty of the new and hot stuff, as well as
the expensive...MAGIC I SAY!
i offered him a deal on his stuff..he didn't respond...i showed where
celebrities themselves say that the stuff he offers is not legit...and
i posted what the autographs should look like in Many, Many
cases...nothing...all he said was that he didn't need to prove me
anything...but guess what, you do lon. because people are
listening...it won't be long before your sales fall off...and i love
thinking that you are pulling stuff from your website too. and i know
you are reading these, because you are having your secretary post on
here pretending to be a customer...amazing!!
he threatened to sue me AND cause me physical harm if i didn't shut my
mouth...none of these threats have come through. and i'm BEGGING him
to take me to court...he'll wind up in the slammer before the trial is
through...AND HE KNOWS IT!!!
ok, i'm gonna cut that one off...i can go on a rant and i'm sure i've
said enough. and there's people on here who hate my rants...so i'll
end it there..

Sue H

2008-05-05 18:20:09 UTC

if he's selling fakes though, why would you offer him a deal on his
stuff? Even if a few things are good in your view, how could you be
sure with all the crap? Could be just a decent forgery; there are
plenty of decent forgeries around.

On Mon, 5 May 2008 10:09:02 -0700 (PDT), barefoot

Post by barefoot
all strickler sells now is forgeries..maybe he was a stand up guy back
when, but he's not now.
sorry to say.
he's posted on this newsgroup, half ass defending himself...but he's
got problems. to be honest with you, i think that he knows he sells
fakes. i told him to double check his source (and i know who his
source is, and he doesn't sell real autographs either.) and he defends
them to the t...
he has another website where he steal images from wireimage and ap and
wherever else he can get them and talks celebrity gossip and then
throws in that people sign here and there, and uses the wireimage
shots to pretend that those autographs are going to him...it's a
crock! he's even posted pictures of me and my employees getting
autographs...he does it to other people too. and he posts some guy
getting autographs in bfe and posts stories of other people getting
autographs so he can lull the customer into thinking," this guy's got
gets the stuff from a forger and then sells them for what he thinks is
market value. ever notice he has all the hot new stuff, there's no
junk on there or anything? and if you're a dealer, you have lots of
junk- trust me. and he has plenty of the new and hot stuff, as well as
the expensive...MAGIC I SAY!
i offered him a deal on his stuff..he didn't respond...i showed where
celebrities themselves say that the stuff he offers is not legit...and
i posted what the autographs should look like in Many, Many
cases...nothing...all he said was that he didn't need to prove me
anything...but guess what, you do lon. because people are
listening...it won't be long before your sales fall off...and i love
thinking that you are pulling stuff from your website too. and i know
you are reading these, because you are having your secretary post on
here pretending to be a customer...amazing!!
he threatened to sue me AND cause me physical harm if i didn't shut my
mouth...none of these threats have come through. and i'm BEGGING him
to take me to court...he'll wind up in the slammer before the trial is
through...AND HE KNOWS IT!!!
ok, i'm gonna cut that one off...i can go on a rant and i'm sure i've
said enough. and there's people on here who hate my rants...so i'll
end it there..

barefoot

2008-05-05 18:24:14 UTC

no, no no...you should remember the deal...where i said i'll pick out
like 100 items and i'll send them to psa dna, Gai and spence (several
to each one) and if ANY of them passes, i'll pay for them...full
ticket value...but if they don't, he burns all his inventory because
it's all bad...could have made him thousands of dollars, quick...but
he didn't even respond.
mike

Sue H

2008-05-05 18:33:24 UTC

Oh ok; I do remember that. The way it was phrased last post was you
made him a deal on his stuff.... and that was all you said (sounded
like you wanted to buy a lot of crap).

On Mon, 5 May 2008 11:24:14 -0700 (PDT), barefoot

Post by barefoot
no, no no...you should remember the deal...where i said i'll pick out
like 100 items and i'll send them to psa dna, Gai and spence (several
to each one) and if ANY of them passes, i'll pay for them...full
ticket value...but if they don't, he burns all his inventory because
it's all bad...could have made him thousands of dollars, quick...but
he didn't even respond.
mike

barefoot

2008-05-05 18:47:19 UTC

not at all...i wouldn't recommend him to anyone, not even to people i
don't like...
i do love how he used a secretary to come in and say all his stuff is
legit...it's probably him, he's already posted from 2 accounts as it
is.
m

northfield

2008-05-05 21:01:04 UTC

Post by barefoot
not at all...i wouldn't recommend him to anyone, not even to people i
don't like...
i do love how he used a secretary to come in and say all his stuff is
legit...it's probably him, he's already posted from 2 accounts as it
is.
m

hi barefoot and Sue - I'm only saying that I have not heard bad things
about strickler from trusted people I know in this hobby. if he is
buying and reselling like many major dealers all do then I'm sure his
sources are sound. I do not work for him or his wife - his wife owns
the autograph business btw - they just use his name according to a
dealer here in nyc I have talked to. he mostly writes, appraises and
lectures all the time now. I used to post here years ago under name
'eastside' - I remember Sue from then. Sharon

Sue H

2008-05-05 22:03:04 UTC

Well some say good and some say bad. We'd been over his site and I've
talked with Lon at length. The problem for me was the Harry Potter
and SW multi-signed posters which he admitted to buying elsewhere and
him selling them for so much when all the sigs were bad. He may know
sports but apparently, he's not well versed in these areas. That's
where I can definitively (not all the time but sometimes) tell you if
something is bad. I have no clue about anything other than those
items and a couple ify SW items he had (I told him about them at the
time).

It is possible he and a LOT (MOST of the dealers everywhere) trust
people who turn not so good. It happens. I've seen it happen with
older ones like Jungle Intrigue ... anyone remember them? Had a batch
in there some years ago that was bad. Also Tswee... who admitted to
buying bulk from people's collections. The result was him banking on
long time collectors who knew there stuff. But with any collections
(mine included) you will have a few odd items here and there not so
great (secretarials, forgeries etc).

I do not judge Strickler. I do NOT know if he's selling intentionally
or not. I talked to him and he seems like a nice guy. I know he's
got connections and his area of specialty it seems is sports. He
should stick with that. I always give people the benefit of the doubt.
But if people tell you and they know what they are talking about, then
maybe it's prudent to pay a little attention. So to keep selling stuff
after, well, it's kind of wrong. There my be disagreements; if he
feels the stuff is good, but someone says something is amiss, it's
simple in the Star Wars realm... simply email the actors and ask.
Sometimes they respond. Or contact a number of other Star Wars
collectors. I have names if interested, but was never asked by him
for other people to give their opinions. That would be the prudent
thing to do (get various opinions if something is in question). Maybe
not worth it on smaller stuff but on posters? Yes, In addition, the
person selling it to him if say is opinion to all the collectors to be
fraudulent, wouldn't that be something he should consider? I mean he
could get his money back, or he could disassociate from further deals
with them in the future....

On Mon, 5 May 2008 14:01:04 -0700 (PDT), northfield

northfield

2008-05-06 05:00:48 UTC

Well some say good and some say bad. �We'd been over his site and I've
talked with Lon at length. �The problem for me was the Harry Potter
and SW multi-signed posters which he admitted to buying elsewhere and
him selling them for so much when all the sigs were bad. �He may know
sports but apparently, he's not well versed in these areas. � That's
where I can definitively (not all the time but sometimes) tell you if
something is bad. �I have no clue about anything other than those
items and a couple ify SW items he had (I told him about them at the
time).
It is possible he and a LOT (MOST of the dealers everywhere) trust
people who turn not so good. �It happens. �I've seen it happen with
older ones like Jungle Intrigue ... anyone remember them? �Had a batch
in there some years ago that was bad. �Also Tswee... who admitted to
buying bulk from people's collections. �The result was him banking on
long time collectors who knew there stuff. �But with any collections
(mine included) you will have a few odd items here and there not so
great (secretarials, forgeries etc). �
I do not judge Strickler. �I do NOT know if he's selling intentionally
or not. �I talked to him and he seems like a nice guy. �I know he's
got connections and his area of specialty it seems is sports. �He
should stick with that. I always give people the benefit of the doubt.
But if people tell you and they know what they are talking about, then
maybe it's prudent to pay a little attention. So to keep selling stuff
after, well, it's kind of wrong. �There my be disagreements; if he
feels the stuff is good, but someone says something is amiss, it's
simple in the Star Wars realm... simply email the actors and ask.
Sometimes they respond. �Or contact a number of other Star Wars
collectors. �I have names if interested, but was never asked by him
for other people to give their opinions. �That would be the prudent
thing to do (get various opinions if something is in question). �Maybe
not worth it on smaller stuff but on posters? �Yes, �In addition, the
person selling it to him if say is opinion to all the collectors to be
fraudulent, wouldn't that be something he should consider? �I mean he
could get his money back, or he could disassociate from further deals
with them in the future.... �
On Mon, 5 May 2008 14:01:04 -0700 (PDT), northfield

hi barefoot and Sue - I'm only saying that I have not heard bad things
about strickler from trusted people I know in this hobby. �if he is
buying and reselling like many major dealers all do then I'm sure his
sources are sound. �I do not work for him or his wife - his wife owns
the autograph business btw - they just use his name according to a
dealer here in nyc I have talked to. �he mostly writes, appraises and
lectures all the time now. �I used to post here years ago under name
'eastside' - I remember Sue from then. �Sharon- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

hi sue - thanks for answering, I can see that you are very sensible
when comes to the hobby and don't jump to conclusion like others who
really have no information about a person. have you talked to Lon or
by email? I don't know maybe sometimes it's easier to understand by
talking to a person - he has very good knowledge of vintage and
classic signatures and documents. as far as current autographed items
I really don't have much insight as to what strickler sells though I
have seen his website. I'm sure if anyone really wanted to find out
about him there are surely many hobby references.

Sue H

2008-05-06 13:23:19 UTC

On Mon, 5 May 2008 22:00:48 -0700 (PDT), northfield

Well some say good and some say bad. ?We'd been over his site and I've
talked with Lon at length. ?The problem for me was the Harry Potter
and SW multi-signed posters which he admitted to buying elsewhere and
him selling them for so much when all the sigs were bad. ?He may know
sports but apparently, he's not well versed in these areas. ? That's
where I can definitively (not all the time but sometimes) tell you if
something is bad. ?I have no clue about anything other than those
items and a couple ify SW items he had (I told him about them at the
time).
It is possible he and a LOT (MOST of the dealers everywhere) trust
people who turn not so good. ?It happens. ?I've seen it happen with
older ones like Jungle Intrigue ... anyone remember them? ?Had a batch
in there some years ago that was bad. ?Also Tswee... who admitted to
buying bulk from people's collections. ?The result was him banking on
long time collectors who knew there stuff. ?But with any collections
(mine included) you will have a few odd items here and there not so
great (secretarials, forgeries etc). ?
I do not judge Strickler. ?I do NOT know if he's selling intentionally
or not. ?I talked to him and he seems like a nice guy. ?I know he's
got connections and his area of specialty it seems is sports. ?He
should stick with that. I always give people the benefit of the doubt.
But if people tell you and they know what they are talking about, then
maybe it's prudent to pay a little attention. So to keep selling stuff
after, well, it's kind of wrong. ?There my be disagreements; if he
feels the stuff is good, but someone says something is amiss, it's
simple in the Star Wars realm... simply email the actors and ask.
Sometimes they respond. ?Or contact a number of other Star Wars
collectors. ?I have names if interested, but was never asked by him
for other people to give their opinions. ?That would be the prudent
thing to do (get various opinions if something is in question). ?Maybe
not worth it on smaller stuff but on posters? ?Yes, ?In addition, the
person selling it to him if say is opinion to all the collectors to be
fraudulent, wouldn't that be something he should consider? ?I mean he
could get his money back, or he could disassociate from further deals
with them in the future.... ?
On Mon, 5 May 2008 14:01:04 -0700 (PDT), northfield

hi barefoot and Sue - I'm only saying that I have not heard bad things
about strickler from trusted people I know in this hobby. ?if he is
buying and reselling like many major dealers all do then I'm sure his
sources are sound. ?I do not work for him or his wife - his wife owns
the autograph business btw - they just use his name according to a
dealer here in nyc I have talked to. ?he mostly writes, appraises and
lectures all the time now. ?I used to post here years ago under name
'eastside' - I remember Sue from then. ?Sharon- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yes, I have. I only know about a few vintage sigs (certain people I
have in my collection I took many months to research before I bought
so I got familiar after a while with them) but to be honest, I only
stick to the stuff I know and advise people on that. I get emails
sometimes for people wanting me to authenticate stuff like baseballs
or other stuff and I usually just steer them to others. I know what I
collect and like Barefoot says, anyone who's been in the hobby a long
time will know more than most because after a while, you've seen a
thousand real in person Mark Hamills or what have you and you just
know. However, I still have a hard time with a couple and will always
admit to it. But on some? I can see it in a blink.... as I am sure
Barefoot can.

My advice to ANYONE buying anything is not to rely even on people you
think know stuff (like Barefoot and myself). If you wanted to buy a
Star Wars multi-signed poster, ask me. Then ask at least one or two
other opinions AND then take the item you want and start compariing it
to known real signatures. Unless you are in an auction where it ends
in less than an hour or less, you most likely can find a few things to
help you decide. But alas, people bid without doing any work at all.
If you are serious about your collection, you should do a little work.
I've taken "chances" without research and I'll tell you, those are the
things about my collection that bug me. What I do is try for in
persons or other means to replace when I can those items. Stupid to
have to buy them twice though. Sometimes the chances are worth it and
others not. I have had both.

Sue H

2008-05-06 13:30:34 UTC

I forgot to mention that the Star Wars world has become a bit of a
joke. They are so bored talking about the same stuff they are now
into valuating signatures based on what type of pen used, how much the
signature varies from the others (so if someone like Ford signed 10
things for Official Pix and on one of them it's a little sloppy, it'd
be worth less). It's RIDICULOUS. They analyze everything. really,
that was crap started by someone who wanted to be "someone" in that
world.... they want to be the next expert. Cracks me up as there are
no experts. But all the little lemmings look up to certain collectors
like their Gods. We're all human beings who make mistakes and the
biggest mistake is making someone a "god" of collecting so you can pay
their insane prices (that's right, those are the people who claim to
know everything and end up setting the prices paid for things). That
and signings. If you keep paying these high prices, you hurt
yoursself. In the end, you will regret it. I sit here and will be
happy to sell you my stuff at these price if you are a masochist. I
am attached, but not stupidly so.

Post by Sue H
On Mon, 5 May 2008 22:00:48 -0700 (PDT), northfield

- Show quoted text -

Yes, I have. I only know about a few vintage sigs (certain people I
have in my collection I took many months to research before I bought
so I got familiar after a while with them) but to be honest, I only
stick to the stuff I know and advise people on that. I get emails
sometimes for people wanting me to authenticate stuff like baseballs
or other stuff and I usually just steer them to others. I know what I
collect and like Barefoot says, anyone who's been in the hobby a long
time will know more than most because after a while, you've seen a
thousand real in person Mark Hamills or what have you and you just
know. However, I still have a hard time with a couple and will always
admit to it. But on some? I can see it in a blink.... as I am sure
Barefoot can.
My advice to ANYONE buying anything is not to rely even on people you
think know stuff (like Barefoot and myself). If you wanted to buy a
Star Wars multi-signed poster, ask me. Then ask at least one or two
other opinions AND then take the item you want and start compariing it
to known real signatures. Unless you are in an auction where it ends
in less than an hour or less, you most likely can find a few things to
help you decide. But alas, people bid without doing any work at all.
If you are serious about your collection, you should do a little work.
I've taken "chances" without research and I'll tell you, those are the
things about my collection that bug me. What I do is try for in
persons or other means to replace when I can those items. Stupid to
have to buy them twice though. Sometimes the chances are worth it and
others not. I have had both.

barefoot

2008-05-06 04:08:17 UTC

he doesn't price, do lectures or appraise for anyone...
he tried to show us this place that he appraises through (a website)
and he checked the authenticity of ONE THING...and the customer wasn't
satisfied...but he uses that to say that ebay uses him to verify
authenticity more than psa dna.
he's a joke...and he's been lying to you for years...

and yes, you have posted before, and gave sharon as a salutation, but
the name at the top wasn't northfield, but it acvtually said
"strickler's sports."

northfield

2008-05-06 05:18:38 UTC

Post by barefoot
he doesn't price, do lectures or appraise for anyone...
he tried to show us this place that he appraises through (a website)
and he checked the authenticity of ONE THING...and the customer wasn't
satisfied...but he uses that to say that ebay uses him to verify
authenticity more than psa dna.
he's a joke...and he's been lying to you for years...
and yes, you have posted before, and gave sharon as a salutation, but
the name at the top wasn't northfield, but it acvtually said
"strickler's sports."

hi barefoot - you say you know something about authentication and
recognizing signatures. please don't take this the wrong way but how
can you make a absolute determination on any signature by simply
looking at an image? have you purchased from strickler? do you have
examples you can prove with exemplars? what training have you had to
make any judgement other than going up to a person and asking for a
signature? what are your credentials in the hobby? everything I have
read from the past postings you are accused of taking signed items
from a former employer and that you sell at some booth at frank &
sons in industry city. do you have a business license (well no, you
couldn't get one that's why you're in industry city), a tax number,
declare income or even pay taxes? you post on a usenet group that has
just over 200 members and you think you are dictating to the
'autograph hobby world'. I think you may just think you are a bit
more important than you really are - just my thoughts. Sharon

barefoot

2008-05-06 09:48:49 UTC

now it's OBVIOUS that you are strickler...You are a liar too.
so let me answer these one at a time...

1) i can't make an ABSOLUTE determination. that's why i've turned down
the job at 2 of the authentication houses..but i can look at something
and make an opinion...then i can email and call a few celebrities
(like peter mayhew) and have them tell me that the autograph that
strickler is a forgery.

2)yes, i do have PLENTY of examples of a lot of things...but i pointed
out strickler's forgeries using other companies examples, to avoid the
whole"just cause mine don't look like yours..." scenario...i even used
MANY different people's items that looked similar, and they looked
nothing like strickler.

3) no, i've never purchased from strickler. ever since the day he had
a julie benz photo signed by courtney love in his catalog (the same
mistake was maken in the movie market catalog, so strickler doesn't
even know who it is that he is forging).. i would never buy anything
from strickler, and i wouldn't recommend it to anyone else.

4) i've had no training in authenticating anything...but after 20
years of actually watching people sign things...i know what i'm
talking about. and strickler's matt damons look nothing like anything
i've ever gotten, or seen other people get...and i've been getting him
since the start of his stardom...and like i said, when i've seen
natalie portman say she doesn't sign star wars items, but she signs
other things...SEVERAL TIMES...i don't really need to use an exemplar
to examine that strickler has over 5 star wars items signed by
portman...i know that by her own mouth, strickler has forgeries.

5) yes i have a business license and tax id...probably the only one in
this conversation who has one.

6) you have never read that i was accused to taking a former partner's
stuff...you read a misunderstanding that's been since taken care of.
but keep making things up lon..and please, please, please keep lying
to us...this is just a begining of me taking you out of the business.
liar!!!!
m

barefoot

2008-05-06 09:51:33 UTC

and please...don't post as "sharon"... just post as yourself...it's
pretty obvious this is a planted name, as you haven't got the BALLS to
do anything you've threatened me with...this post PROVES that you are
either lon, or an employee...take me on like a man you coward!

northfield

2008-05-06 14:04:16 UTC

Post by barefoot
and please...don't post as "sharon"... just post as yourself...it's
pretty obvious this is a planted name, as you haven't got the BALLS to
do anything you've threatened me with...this post PROVES that you are
either lon, or an employee...take me on like a man you coward!

hi barefoot - your response shows that you simply have an opinion
based on an untrained eye - no credentials or standing in the hobby.
would you be able to setup a table at a hobby endorsed event- very
doubtful. these examples you say of strickler seem like rants more
than anything else. what have I 'threatended' you with? most of the
posters on this usenet seem to be interested in modern items more so
than my interests of vintage and classic. Mr black - you probably
aren't stupid but I don't know you. sue - you seem to specialize in
star wars signatures and other modern? anyway, like sue said there are
no experts just mavens. Sharon

Sue H

2008-05-06 15:30:56 UTC

On Tue, 6 May 2008 07:04:16 -0700 (PDT), northfield

I know quite a lot about LOTR and Harry Potter and I am starting to be
good with Pirates of the Caribbean. But that's because I collect
that; that's all. I do know some. I have been into Political sigs
lately and in the course of doing so, you start looking and looking
and looking at stuff till you're blue. After a while you start
becoming familiar with stuff. For instance, this past weekend I was
at an antique store and there was a booth that had a shelf of about 15
or so signed books. I had three of them already (Colin Powell, John
Glenn and I think the other was Hillary Clinton) and I saw the
Margaret Thatcher they had and when I opened it, I immediately knew it
was right. The Powell and the Clinton was right but the Glenn looked
ify (I wasn't sure about it but then again, his sig is easy to do
so...)
. I ended up buying a Queen Noor signed book blindly... I have NO
CLUE about her signature. But I based my decision on my good feelings
with the other sigs. When I got home, I researched Ebay and Google
for people who had proof they got in person (one was a charity sticker
on it and others who boast on their site but aren't sellers etc). Sig
looked good to me. Her sig is obviously odd. So in the future, I am
NOT going to be an expert on that. I'll just say, that looks similar
to ones seen but know way to tell and no way would I give advice on
it. If I got it in person, I would tell the person look at mine...
but I still would not give an opinion. But if I met the person
multiple times, got items by mail and knew their sig for years, yes, I
am giving an opinon.

You simply cannot base "I got this one time in person" and so it
matches mine it's legit. There are good forgers out there.

Also, I bought a Rudy Guiliani book recently blindly (I tried to
research and on Ebay it looked good). I got the book home and now
have my doubts. It looks like his sig (in size and style) but it's
got stop and start lines (three of them).

barefoot

2008-05-06 16:35:21 UTC

let's just put it this way...i have PERSONALLY gotten over 200
autographs from matt damon...over 100 from harrison ford...and NONE of
mine look anything like stricklers (ahem sharon's).. i have a tendency
to scan EVERYTHING that i get as a result of making sure my friends
don't get ripped off and just to make sure that no one buys something
from me and then tries to return it and have it not be what i sent
out. i save all my scans and title them with the date and coa number
for most everything, so i know how long ago someone signed, and can
compare to later signatures etc. we are litterally talking about a
40,000 photo database. i can't scan my 16x20's and posters and the
like but i can take photos of the signatures. i'm also in the process
of selling a paparazi's collection right now, so i have access to his
monster collection too (he started out as a collector and moved on)
and if something was authenticated by psa dna, i scan them again (just
for the sticker)..so i imagine that if someone was looking for a
current hollywood authenticator, i could be their guy. because that's
all the authentication companies have, their scans. there's no real
training except the machines that psa uses to date baseballs, bats and
footballs and the like. and yes, that literally means i have over 200
scans of matt damons autograph, or over 100 scans of johnny depp or
harrison ford. i even have over 60 scans of people like ron perlman.
also, you're right, i am only talking to like 200 people on this
newsgroups sharon (ahem,ahem lon)...but there's a bunch of other
newsgroup sites where you are getting ripped apart too..
have fun,
mike

northfield

2008-05-06 17:29:44 UTC

Post by Sue H
On Tue, 6 May 2008 07:04:16 -0700 (PDT), northfield

hi barefoot - your response shows that you simply have an opinion
based on an untrained eye - no credentials or standing in the hobby.
would you be able to setup a table at a hobby endorsed event- very
doubtful. �these examples you say of strickler seem like rants more
than anything else. �what have I 'threatended' you with? most of the
posters on this usenet seem to be interested in modern items more so
than my interests of vintage and classic. �Mr black - you probably
aren't stupid but I don't know you. �sue - you seem to specialize in
star wars signatures and other modern? anyway, like sue said there are
no experts just mavens. Sharon

I know quite a lot about LOTR and Harry Potter and I am starting to be
good with Pirates of the Caribbean. �But that's because I collect
that; that's all. �I do know some. �I have been into Political sigs
lately and in the course of doing so, you start looking and looking
and looking at stuff till you're blue. �After a while you start
becoming familiar with stuff. �For instance, this past weekend I was
at an antique store and there was a booth that had a shelf of about 15
or so signed books. �I had three of them already (Colin Powell, John
Glenn and I think the other was Hillary Clinton) and I saw the
Margaret Thatcher they had and when I opened it, I immediately knew it
was right. �The Powell and the Clinton was right but the Glenn looked
ify (I wasn't sure about it but then again, his sig is easy to do
so...)
. �I ended up buying a Queen Noor signed book blindly... I have NO
CLUE about her signature. �But I based my decision on my good feelings
with the other sigs. � When I got home, I researched Ebay and Google
for people who had proof they got in person (one was a charity sticker
on it and others who boast on their site but aren't sellers etc). �Sig
looked good to me. �Her sig is obviously odd. �So in the future, I am
NOT going to be an expert on that. I'll just say, that looks similar
to ones seen but know way to tell and no way would I give advice on
it. �If I got it in person, I would tell the person look at mine...
but I still would not give an opinion. �But if I met the person
multiple times, got items by mail and knew their sig for years, yes, I
am giving an opinon.
You simply cannot base "I got this one time in person" and so it
matches mine it's legit. �There are good forgers out there.
Also, I bought a Rudy Guiliani book recently blindly (I tried to
research and on Ebay it looked good). �I got the book home and now
have my doubts. �It looks like his sig (in size and style) but it's
got stop and start lines (three of them). �- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

hi Sue - I collect signed books as well - living in nyc is very
convenient for me. Just recently obtained kathleen turner and going
to get barbara walters tomorrow at 5th ave barnes & noble. guiliani's
signature may very well be good - he has a tendency to rush sometimes
even when he is sitting down signing. was able to get obama and
hillary clinton last fall as well. where are you located? Sharon

Sue H

2008-05-06 17:53:41 UTC

I am located in Virginia. These books were obtained from a signing in
Jersey. We get some odd ones now and then but not so much here; I get
my books usually from other states. I know Olsen's was my favorite
place (DC because my son lives there) and I can get into DC, richmond
etc for some good ones quite easily. I missed out on Barbara Bush a
couple years ago, but managed to buy an Easton Press autographed
edition for under a hundred bucks... I collect those a little too (if
I can find a great deal otherwise I enjoy looking) :)

On Tue, 6 May 2008 10:29:44 -0700 (PDT), northfield

Post by Sue H
On Tue, 6 May 2008 07:04:16 -0700 (PDT), northfield

hi barefoot - your response shows that you simply have an opinion
based on an untrained eye - no credentials or standing in the hobby.
would you be able to setup a table at a hobby endorsed event- very
doubtful. ?these examples you say of strickler seem like rants more
than anything else. ?what have I 'threatended' you with? most of the
posters on this usenet seem to be interested in modern items more so
than my interests of vintage and classic. ?Mr black - you probably
aren't stupid but I don't know you. ?sue - you seem to specialize in
star wars signatures and other modern? anyway, like sue said there are
no experts just mavens. Sharon

I know quite a lot about LOTR and Harry Potter and I am starting to be
good with Pirates of the Caribbean. ?But that's because I collect
that; that's all. ?I do know some. ?I have been into Political sigs
lately and in the course of doing so, you start looking and looking
and looking at stuff till you're blue. ?After a while you start
becoming familiar with stuff. ?For instance, this past weekend I was
at an antique store and there was a booth that had a shelf of about 15
or so signed books. ?I had three of them already (Colin Powell, John
Glenn and I think the other was Hillary Clinton) and I saw the
Margaret Thatcher they had and when I opened it, I immediately knew it
was right. ?The Powell and the Clinton was right but the Glenn looked
ify (I wasn't sure about it but then again, his sig is easy to do
so...)
. ?I ended up buying a Queen Noor signed book blindly... I have NO
CLUE about her signature. ?But I based my decision on my good feelings
with the other sigs. ? When I got home, I researched Ebay and Google
for people who had proof they got in person (one was a charity sticker
on it and others who boast on their site but aren't sellers etc). ?Sig
looked good to me. ?Her sig is obviously odd. ?So in the future, I am
NOT going to be an expert on that. I'll just say, that looks similar
to ones seen but know way to tell and no way would I give advice on
it. ?If I got it in person, I would tell the person look at mine...
but I still would not give an opinion. ?But if I met the person
multiple times, got items by mail and knew their sig for years, yes, I
am giving an opinon.
You simply cannot base "I got this one time in person" and so it
matches mine it's legit. ?There are good forgers out there.
Also, I bought a Rudy Guiliani book recently blindly (I tried to
research and on Ebay it looked good). ?I got the book home and now
have my doubts. ?It looks like his sig (in size and style) but it's
got stop and start lines (three of them). ?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Sue H

2008-05-06 17:54:30 UTC

PS Olsens changed locations and grew and now not so many big names
anymore. National Bookfest is my favorite. I got a lot of good ones
there (last time Bob Woodward).

Post by Sue H
I am located in Virginia. These books were obtained from a signing in
Jersey. We get some odd ones now and then but not so much here; I get
my books usually from other states. I know Olsen's was my favorite
place (DC because my son lives there) and I can get into DC, richmond
etc for some good ones quite easily. I missed out on Barbara Bush a
couple years ago, but managed to buy an Easton Press autographed
edition for under a hundred bucks... I collect those a little too (if
I can find a great deal otherwise I enjoy looking) :)
On Tue, 6 May 2008 10:29:44 -0700 (PDT), northfield

Post by Sue H
On Tue, 6 May 2008 07:04:16 -0700 (PDT), northfield

hi barefoot - your response shows that you simply have an opinion
based on an untrained eye - no credentials or standing in the hobby.
would you be able to setup a table at a hobby endorsed event- very
doubtful. ?these examples you say of strickler seem like rants more
than anything else. ?what have I 'threatended' you with? most of the
posters on this usenet seem to be interested in modern items more so
than my interests of vintage and classic. ?Mr black - you probably
aren't stupid but I don't know you. ?sue - you seem to specialize in
star wars signatures and other modern? anyway, like sue said there are
no experts just mavens. Sharon

barefoot

2008-05-07 12:44:22 UTC

love how i tell "sharon" how trained my eye is, and "she" switches
subjects and tried to get on sue's good side...
"sharon" is a shill for strickler...a liar, cheat and thief.
m

barefoot

2008-05-07 16:25:02 UTC

and if you are "sharon" and not lon...i'll tell you this...don't just
take my word for it...
cut and paste his scan from something you are interested in...
then go to www.autographworld.com, www.starbriteautographs.com.
www.iconographs.com, and there are a few others, i haven't found them
all (try roger epperson)...go to rrauction.com check maestronet's
auctions and compare...i'm sure you will find that they have at least
one, maybe more exemplars to peruse. or you can ask me directly
too...i have all the scans i've mentioned above, from my own
collection and sales. i'll be more than happy to send you my examples.
they may all be newer, but as time goes on, i find i've been in this
business since i was 15...i have signed baseball and football cards
(that's how i got started) from people like roger clemens, michael
jordan, cal ripken jr, nolan ryan, jerry rice, joe montana, wayne
gretzky, mario lemieux and the like, that are almost 20 years old
(i'm 32 right now). so i have quite the range of stuff. i collect
everything. i've done surfers, volleyball players, olympic athletes,
moto x riders...nascar, formula one (yes, i've gotten schumacher
myself too)...i've traveled and have australian rules football and
cricket stars, and some good soccer people like ronaldo, ronaldhino,
beckham and pele. i have what's considered to be the most completed
lord of the rings posters in the world (my two towers poster has over
40 autographs from actors and director peter jackson with no behind
the scenes people on it- no, it's not for sale, unless someone want's
to buy me a car with it.) i started my star wars collection quite late
(it was actually getting the LOTR posters that made me want to start
star wars posters, so i started a little too late and don't have like
peter diamond on them, but i did go to england and get a lot of people
there on them a few years ago, but there's no way i can keep up with
sue).
but you can go to these sites and see that strickler's stuff looks
NOTHING like the other people's, yet the other sellers all loook very,
very similar...i did actually point that out, right here, like a month
or two ago...
i can PROVE that strickler's stuff is forged...like i said, i made him
an offer that a serious businessman shouldn't refuse.
mike

northfield

2008-05-08 00:13:26 UTC

Post by barefoot
and if you are "sharon" and not lon...i'll tell you this...don't just
take my word for it...
cut and paste his scan from something you are interested in...
then go towww.autographworld.com,www.starbriteautographs.com.www.iconographs.com, and there are a few others, i haven't found them
all (try roger epperson)...go to rrauction.com check maestronet's
auctions and compare...i'm sure you will find that they have at least
one, maybe more exemplars to peruse. or you can ask me directly
too...i have all the scans i've mentioned above, from my own
collection and sales. i'll be more than happy to send you my examples.
they may all be newer, but as time goes on, i find i've been in this
business since i was 15...i have signed baseball and football cards
(that's how i got started) from people like roger clemens, michael
jordan, cal ripken jr, nolan ryan, jerry rice, joe montana, wayne
gretzky, mario lemieux �and the like, that are almost 20 years old
(i'm 32 right now). so i have quite the range of stuff. i collect
everything. i've done surfers, volleyball players, olympic athletes,
moto x riders...nascar, formula one (yes, i've gotten schumacher
myself too)...i've traveled and have australian rules football and
cricket stars, and some good soccer people like ronaldo, ronaldhino,
beckham and pele. i have what's considered to be the most completed
lord of the rings posters in the world (my two towers poster has over
40 autographs from actors and director peter jackson with no behind
the scenes people on it- no, it's not for sale, unless someone want's
to buy me a car with it.) i started my star wars collection quite late
(it was actually getting the LOTR posters that made me want to start
star wars posters, so i started a little too late and don't have like
peter diamond on them, but i did go to england and get a lot of people
there on them a few years ago, but there's no way i can keep up with
sue).
but you can go to these sites and see that strickler's stuff looks
NOTHING like the other people's, yet the other sellers all loook very,
very similar...i did actually point that out, right here, like a month
or two ago...
i can PROVE that strickler's stuff is forged...like i said, i made him
an offer that a serious businessman shouldn't refuse.
mike

hi barefoot - I went to the brandes reference as well as the koschal
references at isitreal.com as well as sanders facsimiles and my
archive which is fairly extensive last night and today and compared to
many of strickler's images. I was at the barbara walters book signing
today and ran into james lowe who is a pada registered dealer in nyc -
we talked about strickler a bit and he told me that he get's harry
potter items and other british signed photos from john wilson and a
fellow dealer named rupert - both pada registered dealers. I do know
strickler has a business relationaship with david priol in australia
for some time now - i know of no one who questions his inventory.
honestly, strickler's inventory looks very close in style and flow to
the facsimiles and exemplars. frankly rrauction and mastronet have
had some bad press lately for selling forgeries - both were sued and
had to claim that they based it on psa/dna authentication. the guy at
pas/dna including epperson, are not very reliable in my book.
autographworld owned by bardwell - well, he has good knowledge of
older signatures - for recent item he has questionable exemplars from
what I have heard. you made mention of matt damon - he signs for
anyone has you stated. his signature has changed countless times from
exemaples I have seen. honestly, I don't know waht offer you made to
strickler but the manner in which you rant on here it's obvious that
most dealers would either ignore you and not think you're serious.

btw - anyone have any world on barry rosen vs. uacc tort? have not
heard of a settlement yet. i think a few posters here were name in
the lawsuit - autographpros and ed bedrick. Sharon

Mr Black

2008-05-08 09:30:08 UTC

Post by barefoot
love how i tell "sharon" how trained my eye is, and "she" switches
subjects and tried to get on sue's good side...
"sharon" is a shill for strickler...a liar, cheat and thief.
m

I don't know strickler, so i wont call him what you have. but i do agree,
imho "sharon" is a shill / sock account for either Lon himself, his wife, or
an employee of his company.
Im still waiting for an actual legitimate explanation of how a post from a
supposed collector called "sharon" was posted from ***@aol.com
under the user name of stricklercelebs....Im mean seriously people....what
more proof do we need?

MrB

Sue H

2008-05-08 14:38:33 UTC

This is true; I've never seen that happen...

But not sticking up for them; what I saw was bad and I cannot back
down. And for a person who doesn't know them that well in one post,
they sure posted a lot "all of a sudden" and is sticking up for them
an awful lot too. But I don't need to get into arguments with them.
I just need to stick to what I know and advise people accordingly.
Words on here slamming people just don't seem to accomplish much.
With that said there may be 200 people on here, but it's my guess 75%
of them don't care (lurk for addresses or info) or aren't even active
anymore. Only about 10 people actively seem to contribute to this
group and so after a post or two, you are preaching to the choir so to
speak.

On Thu, 8 May 2008 19:30:08 +1000, "Mr Black"

Post by Mr Black

Post by barefoot
love how i tell "sharon" how trained my eye is, and "she" switches
subjects and tried to get on sue's good side...
"sharon" is a shill for strickler...a liar, cheat and thief.
m

I don't know strickler, so i wont call him what you have. but i do agree,
imho "sharon" is a shill / sock account for either Lon himself, his wife, or
an employee of his company.
Im still waiting for an actual legitimate explanation of how a post from a
under the user name of stricklercelebs....Im mean seriously people....what
more proof do we need?
MrB

barefoot

2008-05-08 16:01:37 UTC

and she's responding EXACTLY like strickler...with accusations which
are untrue, instead of explaining how their autographs look nothing
like anyone else's stuff.
mike

barefoot

2008-05-08 16:49:31 UTC

and matt damon's autograph has gotten crappier over time, but it's
still the same consistant autograph as it has been for over 10 years,
just with fewer letters...why do strickler's look NOTHING like all the
other companies autographs...do you want me to go through it again...i
will...here...

here is stricklers...
http://pages.stricklersports.com/8987/PictPage/3923230318.html
actually, here's another one...it's from ocean's 3, so the autograph
should look the sameas all the other ones.
http://pages.stricklersports.com/8987/PictPage/3923205253.html

here's one at starbrite (before i started owning the company)
http://www.starbriteautographs.com/p-10917-matt-damon.aspx

here's one from AFTER i started co owning the company (so about 2
years apart in time frame)
http://www.starbriteautographs.com/p-7857-matt-damon.aspx

here's one at r and r auction...it's in the topright hand corner of
the oscar shot
http://www.rrauction.com/bidtracker_detail.cfm?IN=689

here's a couple from autographpros.com
http://www.autographpros.com/matt-damon-signed-good-will-hunting-autographed-photo-p-703.html?osCsid=1e39a1550b2b177672a50f1682c04a0b

here's a group lot from r and r auctions.
http://www.rrauction.com/past_auction_item.cfm?ID=3118272
all look the same except SLIGHTLY different.

tell me why strickler's looks NOTHING like any of the others?
do i need to go further? i'm gonna...right now.
go back to that ocean's 13 shot from strickler.

here's a clooney from autographworld.
http://www.autographworld.com/original/showbig.asp?item=119
looks nothing like that clooney from strickler...wait, there's more.
here's a pitt from autographworld. although it's the same idea, it's
not signed by the same person...
http://www.autographworld.com/original/showbig.asp?item=522

here's a clooney from iconographs
http://www.iconographs.com/item_detail.php?ID=77528&cat=***New***&subcat=All
doesn't look the same or nearly the same as strickler's.
iconographs doesn't have any pitt's that you can easily read.

here's an OLD clooney..like really old...from starbrite (before i even
had anything to do with them)
http://www.starbriteautographs.com/p-8688-george-clooney.aspx
here's one when i did have something to do with the company.
http://www.starbriteautographs.com/p-7555-george-clooney.aspx
funny how these look alike, but strickler's looks nothing alike.
they have no brad pitt autographs any longer.

here's an old brad pitt from marcus brandes autographs (from another
country, but all his stuff is legit)
http://www.autogramme.com/docs/normal_shop2.asp?id=5000&sp=E&m1=4998&m2=5000&domid=801&aktion=&shopaktion=detailgr&name=Pitt&vorname=Brad&artnr=99#12246
here's 2 clooneys from the same place.
http://www.autogramme.com/docs/normal_shop2.asp?id=5000&sp=E&m1=4998&m2=5000&domid=801&aktion=&shopaktion=detailgr&name=Clooney&vorname=George&artnr=99#18036

here's a good exampling of clooneys from rrauction.
http://www.rrauction.com/past_auction_item.cfm?ID=3123349
still, all similar, even the sloppy one..
and here's a brad pitt from the same company
http://www.rrauction.com/past_auction_item.cfm?ID=3163719

now, whoever forged strickler's, they know what the autographs look
like, but they just can't get the handwriting down...so they did the
best they could but how come strickler's look nothing like these
several other dealers? not at all..especially the damon who has a
specific autograph...
quit defending strickler, cause i can do this all day...
oh yeah, that's because you are strickler, pretending to be
sharon...haven't really responded to that one yet, have you "sharon"?
m

northfield

2008-05-08 23:51:45 UTC

Post by barefoot
and matt damon's autograph has gotten crappier over time, but it's
still the same consistant autograph as it has been for over 10 years,
just with fewer letters...why do strickler's look NOTHING like all the
other companies autographs...do you want me to go through it again...i
will...here...
here is stricklers...http://pages.stricklersports.com/8987/PictPage/3923230318.html
actually, here's another one...it's from ocean's 3, so the autograph
should look the sameas all the other ones.http://pages.stricklersports.com/8987/PictPage/3923205253.html
here's one at starbrite (before i started owning the company)http://www.starbriteautographs.com/p-10917-matt-damon.aspx
here's one from AFTER i started co owning the company (so about 2
years apart in time frame)http://www.starbriteautographs.com/p-7857-matt-damon.aspx
here's one at r and r auction...it's in the topright hand corner of
the oscar shothttp://www.rrauction.com/bidtracker_detail.cfm?IN=689
here's a couple from autographpros.comhttp://www.autographpros.com/matt-damon-signed-good-will-hunting-auto...
here's a group lot from r and r auctions.http://www.rrauction.com/past_auction_item.cfm?ID=3118272
all look the same except SLIGHTLY different.
tell me why strickler's looks NOTHING like any of the others?
do i need to go further? i'm gonna...right now.
go back to that ocean's 13 shot from strickler.
here's a clooney from autographworld.http://www.autographworld.com/original/showbig.asp?item=119
looks nothing like that clooney from strickler...wait, there's more.
here's a pitt from autographworld. although it's the same idea, it's
not signed by the same person...http://www.autographworld.com/original/showbig.asp?item=522
here's a clooney from iconographshttp://www.iconographs.com/item_detail.php?ID=77528&cat=***New***&sub...
doesn't look the same or nearly the same as strickler's.
iconographs doesn't have any pitt's that you can easily read.
here's an OLD clooney..like really old...from starbrite (before i even
had anything to do with them)http://www.starbriteautographs.com/p-8688-george-clooney.aspx
here's one when i did have something to do with the company.http://www.starbriteautographs.com/p-7555-george-clooney.aspx
funny how these look alike, but strickler's looks nothing alike.
they have no brad pitt autographs any longer.
here's an old brad pitt from marcus brandes autographs (from another
country, but all his stuff is legit)http://www.autogramme.com/docs/normal_shop2.asp?id=5000&sp=E&m1=4998&...
here's 2 clooneys from the same place.http://www.autogramme.com/docs/normal_shop2.asp?id=5000&sp=E&m1=4998&...
here's a good exampling of clooneys from rrauction.http://www.rrauction.com/past_auction_item.cfm?ID=3123349
still, all similar, even the sloppy one..
and here's a brad pitt from the same companyhttp://www.rrauction.com/past_auction_item.cfm?ID=3163719
now, whoever forged strickler's, they know what the autographs look
like, but they just can't get the handwriting down...so they did the
best they could but how come strickler's look nothing like these
several other dealers? not at all..especially the damon who has a
specific autograph...
quit defending strickler, cause i can do this all day...
oh yeah, that's because you are strickler, pretending to be
sharon...haven't really responded to that one yet, have you "sharon"?
m

hi barefoot...you state you 32 yo...so 09/14/1972 not your birthdate?
you can post examples from websites all day but it still are images
with no provenance. I looked at some of the examples you post...a
forensic trained graphology expert can look at flow and style
variation and tell there is high probablity that strickler items are
authentic. I have been trained by Curt Baggett and can see the
similarities. Forensic document experts must undergo two years full
time training under a mentor. There are many people who pass
themselves off as legitimate experts but are really not properly
trained. many items especially photos are checks for fingerprint
identification as well. that's why I don't take seriously those
people who have no formal training - that included authentication
companies. it's all a scam and most autograph dealers who make
accusation about other dealers will rant and rant like yourself, but
the proof is total subjective. Sharon

barefoot

2008-05-09 00:30:30 UTC

72 is not my birth year...and a traiuned forensic person would look at
stricklers and decide that his is NOTHING like the others and shows
absolutely no similarityti an authentic example...you have been
trained by no one named curt bagget, or if he's even a licensed
authenticator...like i said, you've never been here before and now go
on the offensive about someone you don't know about..you didn't do any
training...come on. flow and style show nothing on stricklers
items...a simple person with NO training can tell that strickler's so
NOTHING to other people who's stuff is real. if they can tell, then
you can tell...you tell us you're just a customer, but no, you are
strickler...and you send us more lies and deciet.
m

northfield

2008-05-09 01:03:19 UTC

Post by barefoot
72 is not my birth year...and a traiuned forensic person would look at
stricklers and decide that his is NOTHING like the others and shows
absolutely no similarityti an authentic example...you have been
trained by no one named curt bagget, or if he's even a licensed
authenticator...like i said, you've never been here before and now go
on the offensive about someone you don't know about..you didn't do any
training...come on. flow and style show nothing on stricklers
items...a simple person with NO training can tell that strickler's so
NOTHING to other people who's stuff is real. if they can tell, then
you can tell...you tell us you're just a customer, but no, you are
strickler...and you send us more lies and deciet.
m

hi barefoot.....09/14/1972 is not your birthdate? so who's lying?
Alan, Mary, Scott, The State of California or the State of Arizona?

barefoot

2008-05-09 02:11:52 UTC

the rest of it is right lon.

barefoot

2008-05-09 02:12:58 UTC

it's all good though.

no response to the accusations, just more b.s. from you...but it's all
good.
m

Mr Black

2008-05-09 09:47:38 UTC

Post by northfield
hi barefoot.....09/14/1972 is not your birthdate? so who's lying?

Alan, Mary, Scott, The State of California or the State of Arizona?

By giving up all this info, I assume you are finally admiting how you really
are....

Bob

2008-05-09 10:03:49 UTC

He does exist looks like he is this the same Curt Baggett that will
give you a quick opinion via your fax for 295.00. http://www.usahandwritingexperts.com/

I'm pretty sure thats hard to do with a fax of an item, flow, pressure
and start and stop points would never come through properly.

But he is listed as an expert, although he did think John Karr wrote
(99% sure) the Ramsey ranson note, although DNA didn't put him at the
scene.

Oh if you want you can order his dvd here

Now is your chance to discover the deep, dark secrets locked inside
our unconscious mind through the power of 21st century handwriting
analysis.

http://handwritinguniversity.com/products/101/

Guess he teaches hypnosis to.....

Miranda Fitchett has been employed with the McAlester Police
Department since February of 1996. She is also a special investigator
with the Pittsburg County District Attorneys Office, as well as a
Reserve Deputy with the Pittsburg County Sheriff's Office. Mrs.
Fitchett held her apprenticeship with Expert Forensic Document
Examiners: Curt Baggett and Don Lehew.

Mrs Fitchett met and studied with numerous other qualified examiners
throughout her apprenticeship and attended numerous seminars.

She also became certified in Handwriting Analysis from Bart and Curt
Baggett in Dallas, TX. As well as attaining her Certification for
Hypnosis from Curt Baggett during her apprenticeship. While many other
document examiners feel that Handwriting Analysis and Forensic Forged
Document Examination should be kept separate. Mrs Fitchett feels that
the combined training of both disciplines enhances her abilities as a
Forged Document Examiner. Each of these disciplines lends a new
perspective to the examination process that the other doesn't have.

Bob

2008-05-09 10:13:34 UTC

Here's more on Baggett

He said he found a dozen writing similarities between the ransom note,
a message Karr wrote in a yearbook to a classmate and a letter he
wrote in Hamilton, Ala., when he was fired from his substitute
teaching job in November 1996.

But Baggett has been disqualified by judges from testifying as an
expert witness after they learned he has little education and is not
certified, according to court records.

Baggett said he has testified in 2,600 trials in all 50 states and 12
foreign countries.

But National Association of Document Examiners vice president Linda
James said Baggett's style is flawed, that he is premature and that he
could falsely sway public opinion before a thorough analysis is done
by experts.

http://www.denverpost.com/jonbenet/ci_4228666

Sue H

2008-05-09 13:17:08 UTC

with the internet though, you can't necessarily believe people. they
could have taken the name from the net and threw it around and be
lying. So I personally take everything said with a grain of salt. It
is also my opinion after watching the Jon Bonet case, that nobody can
analyze handwriting that well. In that case they had massive amounts
of exemplars and couldn't connect it. One thing good about analyzing
multi-signed pieces though is you have several handwriting types. So
if one doesn't match, probably a sloppy sig or some other explanation
but when most of them are not right, you don't have to be an FBI
analyst. You just need common sense....

Post by Bob
He does exist looks like he is this the same Curt Baggett that will
give you a quick opinion via your fax for 295.00. http://www.usahandwritingexperts.com/
I'm pretty sure thats hard to do with a fax of an item, flow, pressure
and start and stop points would never come through properly.
(99% sure) the Ramsey ranson note, although DNA didn't put him at the
scene.
Oh if you want you can order his dvd here
Now is your chance to discover the deep, dark secrets locked inside
our unconscious mind through the power of 21st century handwriting
analysis.
http://handwritinguniversity.com/products/101/
Guess he teaches hypnosis to.....
Miranda Fitchett has been employed with the McAlester Police
Department since February of 1996. She is also a special investigator
with the Pittsburg County District Attorneys Office, as well as a
Reserve Deputy with the Pittsburg County Sheriff's Office. Mrs.
Fitchett held her apprenticeship with Expert Forensic Document
Examiners: Curt Baggett and Don Lehew.
Mrs Fitchett met and studied with numerous other qualified examiners
throughout her apprenticeship and attended numerous seminars.
She also became certified in Handwriting Analysis from Bart and Curt
Baggett in Dallas, TX. As well as attaining her Certification for
Hypnosis from Curt Baggett during her apprenticeship. While many other
document examiners feel that Handwriting Analysis and Forensic Forged
Document Examination should be kept separate. Mrs Fitchett feels that
the combined training of both disciplines enhances her abilities as a
Forged Document Examiner. Each of these disciplines lends a new
perspective to the examination process that the other doesn't have.

Sue H

2008-05-09 02:30:16 UTC

If he was 32, 1976 would be his date not 1972. If born in 1972, he'd
be 36 or so. Give or take depending on the month.

I think you did the math wrong.

Post by northfield
hi barefoot...you state you 32 yo...so 09/14/1972 not your birthdate?
you can post examples from websites all day but it still are images
with no provenance. I looked at some of the examples you post...a
forensic trained graphology expert can look at flow and style
variation and tell there is high probablity that strickler items are
authentic. I have been trained by Curt Baggett and can see the
similarities. Forensic document experts must undergo two years full
time training under a mentor. There are many people who pass
themselves off as legitimate experts but are really not properly
trained. many items especially photos are checks for fingerprint
identification as well. that's why I don't take seriously those
people who have no formal training - that included authentication
companies. it's all a scam and most autograph dealers who make
accusation about other dealers will rant and rant like yourself, but
the proof is total subjective. Sharon

northfield

2008-05-09 02:57:58 UTC

If he was 32, 1976 would be his date not 1972. �If born in 1972, he'd
be 36 or so. �Give or take depending on the month.
I think you did the math wrong.

Post by northfield
hi barefoot...you state you 32 yo...so 09/14/1972 not your birthdate?
you can post examples from websites all day but it still are images
with no provenance. �I looked at some of the examples you post...a
forensic trained graphology expert can look at flow and style
variation and tell there is high probablity that strickler items are
authentic. I have been trained by Curt Baggett and can see the
similarities. Forensic document experts must undergo two years full
time training under a mentor. There are many people who pass
themselves off as legitimate experts but are really not properly
trained. many items especially photos are checks for fingerprint
identification as well. �that's why I don't take seriously those
people who have no formal training - that included authentication
companies. �it's all a scam and most autograph dealers who make
accusation about other dealers will rant and rant like yourself, but
the proof is total subjective. Sharon- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

hi sue - then his birth certificate and those people I mentioned are
wrong. Sharon

Mr Black

2008-05-09 09:48:43 UTC

If he was 32, 1976 would be his date not 1972. ?If born in 1972, he'd
be 36 or so. ?Give or take depending on the month.
I think you did the math wrong.

Post by northfield
hi barefoot...you state you 32 yo...so 09/14/1972 not your birthdate?
you can post examples from websites all day but it still are images
with no provenance. ?I looked at some of the examples you post...a
forensic trained graphology expert can look at flow and style
variation and tell there is high probablity that strickler items are
authentic. I have been trained by Curt Baggett and can see the
similarities. Forensic document experts must undergo two years full
time training under a mentor. There are many people who pass
themselves off as legitimate experts but are really not properly
trained. many items especially photos are checks for fingerprint
identification as well. ?that's why I don't take seriously those
people who have no formal training - that included authentication
companies. ?it's all a scam and most autograph dealers who make
accusation about other dealers will rant and rant like yourself, but
the proof is total subjective. Sharon- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Post by northfield
hi sue - then his birth certificate and those people I mentioned are

wrong. Sharon

So "sharon"....why would a random collector know so much about barefoot
??????

Sue H

2008-05-09 13:35:08 UTC

On Fri, 9 May 2008 19:48:43 +1000, "Mr Black"

If he was 32, 1976 would be his date not 1972. ?If born in 1972, he'd
be 36 or so. ?Give or take depending on the month.
I think you did the math wrong.

Post by northfield
hi barefoot...you state you 32 yo...so 09/14/1972 not your birthdate?
you can post examples from websites all day but it still are images
with no provenance. ?I looked at some of the examples you post...a
forensic trained graphology expert can look at flow and style
variation and tell there is high probablity that strickler items are
authentic. I have been trained by Curt Baggett and can see the
similarities. Forensic document experts must undergo two years full
time training under a mentor. There are many people who pass
themselves off as legitimate experts but are really not properly
trained. many items especially photos are checks for fingerprint
identification as well. ?that's why I don't take seriously those
people who have no formal training - that included authentication
companies. ?it's all a scam and most autograph dealers who make
accusation about other dealers will rant and rant like yourself, but
the proof is total subjective. Sharon- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Post by northfield
hi sue - then his birth certificate and those people I mentioned are

wrong. Sharon
So "sharon"....why would a random collector know so much about barefoot
??????

I am not sure the point of this. All I pointed out was your post said
he was born in 1972 and he admitted to it and that mean he was 32. I
pointed out the math was wrong (especially if you are stating you have
a birth certificate... but I can't believe that; that's hard to obtain
unless you have access to county records). I could care less if he
lies about his age. My birthday is this week and I've had a block on
my age since I turned 40. I can't remember how old I am and when my
hubby asked me this week (my birtdhay is in a few days) how old I was
and I said who knows. He said well figure it out you know when you
were born. Sure I know the year, but I am trying to block that out
too. ... If you ask me how old I am I'll admit to being 40 plus and
that's it. If you asked me when I turned 40 what age I was, I'd tell
you 39 and that was like that for two years or so. I used to laugh
about peoeple who did that (what's the point) but some people I
realize have a mortality smack at some point. With some it's older
... but me, it hit me hard.

Barefoot we know a lot about. We already know he's an older than
average college student who's been going to college half his life....
and we know he probably does reside and visit between Arizona and
California (he's been really consistent on that). We know his
personality, his writing style, the people he cohorts with and even
that he really has lived at home forever.... you either like or don't
like him. We've all made our assment of him (and most have of me as
well or others on here). It is what it is and I don't see a biggie on
it. At 32 or 36 or even 40, his personality is still the same.

Sue H

2008-05-09 13:42:45 UTC

Post by northfield
it's all a scam and most autograph dealers who make
accusation about other dealers will rant and rant like yourself, but
the proof is total subjective. Sharon- Hide quoted text -

I do agree with that statement (another reason I can't readily put
something on the Xlist; because it could be dealer against dealer just
trying to put one another out of business).

However, there is no reason for someone like me to point out something
is a forgery. I have no vested interest in anything other than not to
let good hard working people get ripped off. I could just as easily
not say a word, protect myself and move on. I don't do much for
charity these days so this is some small way to help others.

I may be off today because tornados in the area... so if not, it's no
matter, I think I am done with this subject. I am tired.

barefoot

2008-05-09 16:22:22 UTC

well, i don't live with my parents, i'm not 36, and i haven't went to
college forever (i went to asu for a time, broke my writing arm and
have now went back these past few years)..but other than that, you're
probably right in about any aspect about me.
m

northfield

2008-05-09 18:55:26 UTC

Post by barefoot
well, i don't live with my parents, i'm not 36, and i haven't went to
college forever (i went to asu for a time, broke my writing arm and
have now went back these past few years)..but other than that, you're
probably right in about any aspect about me.
m

hi sue and barefoot - I have found in my many years that those who
boast the most are those who have the most to hide. It's no different
in this case - I'll leave it at that. Sharon

Sue H

2008-05-09 19:43:10 UTC

I assumed the saying was something more along the lines of those who
boast the most are trying to compensate for something....

Post by northfield
hi sue and barefoot - I have found in my many years that those who
boast the most are those who have the most to hide. It's no different
in this case - I'll leave it at that. Sharon

barefoot

2008-05-09 21:02:25 UTC

i have NOTHING to hide...ask me anything..in fact, i don't think i've
boasted ANYTHING in reguards to these posts...
lon you still haven't answered the simple question, why does
everything in your inventory look completely different from everyone
else's? why do the celebrities call your stuff fake..
you have not answered any of those question...nor the countless others
including the wonderful "why do you post on here as 'sharon' since we
all know this is lon?
why the fake names and talking in circles? why can't you just answer
the question at hand? or is it because you have no answer?
mike

Mr Black

2008-05-09 23:50:17 UTC

Post by barefoot
you have not answered any of those question...nor the countless others
including the wonderful "why do you post on here as 'sharon' since we
all know this is lon?
why the fake names and talking in circles? why can't you just answer
the question at hand? or is it because you have no answer?
mike

its simple, we have caught him out, and he would look a fool if he actually
admitted he is posing as a female collector on here, its sad really.

northfield

2008-05-10 03:24:12 UTC

Post by barefoot
i have NOTHING to hide...ask me anything..in fact, i don't think i've
boasted ANYTHING in reguards to these posts...
lon you still haven't answered the simple question, why does
everything in your inventory look completely different from everyone
else's? why do the celebrities call your stuff fake..
you have not answered any of those question...nor the countless others
including the wonderful "why do you post on here as 'sharon' since we
all know this is lon?
why the fake names and talking in circles? why can't you just answer
the question at hand? or is it because you have no answer?
mike

Mr Black

2008-05-10 04:39:05 UTC

hi barefoot - if you are asking me these questions,I suggest you find
strickler's email or phone and ask him your questions - I
can't,sorry. it's probable you have ask him before but you didn't get
the answer you wanted -that's just an assumption. I bet all these
celebrities you state are calling and emailing you to say his items
are not real - seems like another fantasy that may make some people
here think you're more than you actually are. I suggest you go a few
blocks down the street from your residence and ask those
Scientologists to give you a 'preclear' audit. Sharon

So you know where barefoot lives and what is in his neighbourhood...but
youre just a random collector named Sharon who stumbled upon this
newsgroup?...give me a f#cking break!

So "Sharon" Im still waitng for your ACTUAL explanation as to how you were
posting from ***@aol.com under the username of
stricklercelebs...but somehow...magically....you are not he, or his wife, or
an employee...in fact you are someone not associated with them in any
way.....(roll eyes)

MrB

barefoot

2008-05-10 07:33:25 UTC

well, it's only 2 celebrities...but i'm sure i could find more.
i don't live in the building with the scientologists any
longer...haven't lived there since the first of the year...
but obviously mr. black is right, you know a little too much about me
to NOT be strickler...
you enjoy your life there...i actually look at this like a little more
of your threats.
enjoy...loser...you still haven't answered the initial question...WHY
DO YOUR AUTOGRAPHS LOOK WILDLY DIFFERENT THAN EVERYONE ELSE'S?
m

Bob

2008-05-12 11:48:27 UTC

I don't know much about IP's but I think we all know AOL IP's are
shared but oddly enough they are both posting from the same one

NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.116.67

AOL proxy server IP Ranges
64.12.96.0/19 64.12.96.0 – 64.12.127.255
149.174.160.0/20 149.174.160.0 – 149.174.175.255
152.163.0.0/16 152.163.0.0 – 152.163.255.255
195.93.0.0/17 195.93.0.0 – 195.93.127.255
198.81.0.0/19 198.81.0.0 – 198.81.31.255
202.67.64.128/25 202.67.64.128 – 202.67.64.255
205.188.0.0/16 205.188.0.0 – 205.188.255.255
207.200.112.0/21 207.200.112.0 – 207.200.119.255

Sharon example
NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.116.67
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Trace: posting.google.com 1209943364 17206 127.0.0.1 (4 May 2008
23:22:44 GMT)
X-Complaints-To: groups-***@google.com
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 23:22:44 +0000 (UTC)
Complaints-To: groups-***@google.com

Lon Example
NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.116.67
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Trace: posting.google.com 1198100118 23587 127.0.0.1 (19 Dec 2007
21:35:18 GMT)
X-Complaints-To: groups-***@google.com
NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:35:18 +0000 (UTC)
Complaints-To: groups-***@google.com

Mr Black

2008-05-12 12:41:57 UTC

I don't know much about IP's but I think we all know AOL IP's are
shared but oddly enough they are both posting from the same one

NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.116.67

AOL proxy server IP Ranges
64.12.96.0/19 64.12.96.0 64.12.127.255
149.174.160.0/20 149.174.160.0 149.174.175.255
152.163.0.0/16 152.163.0.0 152.163.255.255
195.93.0.0/17 195.93.0.0 195.93.127.255
198.81.0.0/19 198.81.0.0 198.81.31.255
202.67.64.128/25 202.67.64.128 202.67.64.255
205.188.0.0/16 205.188.0.0 205.188.255.255
207.200.112.0/21 207.200.112.0 207.200.119.255

Sharon example
NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.116.67
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Trace: posting.google.com 1209943364 17206 127.0.0.1 (4 May 2008
23:22:44 GMT)
X-Complaints-To: groups-***@google.com
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 23:22:44 +0000 (UTC)
Complaints-To: groups-***@google.com

Lon Example
NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.116.67
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Trace: posting.google.com 1198100118 23587 127.0.0.1 (19 Dec 2007
21:35:18 GMT)
X-Complaints-To: groups-***@google.com
NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:35:18 +0000 (UTC)
Complaints-To: groups-***@google.com <<<<

ROFL!!!LMAO!!!!
You have busted Strickler cold Bob !!!!

Sue H

2008-05-12 13:00:40 UTC

Hmm; this sounds familiar; last year sometimes didn't we go through
this before with another member? (I'm just saying...) anyway, if this
is proof positive, it just goes to show you honesty is really the only
way to go. In the end, it usually comes out and negatively for the
person being defended, trolling or doing ill deeds.

On Mon, 12 May 2008 22:41:57 +1000, "Mr Black"

Post by Bob
I don't know much about IP's but I think we all know AOL IP's are
shared but oddly enough they are both posting from the same one
NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.116.67
AOL proxy server IP Ranges
64.12.96.0/19 64.12.96.0 64.12.127.255
149.174.160.0/20 149.174.160.0 149.174.175.255
152.163.0.0/16 152.163.0.0 152.163.255.255
195.93.0.0/17 195.93.0.0 195.93.127.255
198.81.0.0/19 198.81.0.0 198.81.31.255
202.67.64.128/25 202.67.64.128 202.67.64.255
205.188.0.0/16 205.188.0.0 205.188.255.255
207.200.112.0/21 207.200.112.0 207.200.119.255
Sharon example
NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.116.67
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Trace: posting.google.com 1209943364 17206 127.0.0.1 (4 May 2008
23:22:44 GMT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 23:22:44 +0000 (UTC)
Lon Example
NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.116.67
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Trace: posting.google.com 1198100118 23587 127.0.0.1 (19 Dec 2007
21:35:18 GMT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:35:18 +0000 (UTC)
ROFL!!!LMAO!!!!
You have busted Strickler cold Bob !!!!

barefoot

2008-05-12 17:07:24 UTC

i really can't argue one way or another on that one.
mike

barefoot

2008-05-09 02:58:06 UTC

exactly.. whatever website lon is looking at is just wrong....my old
driver's license was wrong until i went back to get it fixed...i had
to take my birth certificate and social security card to get the date
changed...it's probably just a simple mistake..
i do love how a 4 year age difference is the story lon chooses to
point out when the issue really is why his autographs look nothing
like other companies (but all of theirs look similar) and how come
even celebrities say the autographs he is selling are forged as well.
but he chooses to point out my age.
m

Jonathon Blake

2008-05-09 04:59:52 UTC

I have been trained by Curt Baggett and can see the similarities.

Given Curt's record as an expert witness, claiming to be trained by
him is _not_ a recommendation. More to the point, it emphasizes the
point that you do not know how to analyze handwriting for forensic
purposes.

barefoot

2008-05-09 06:03:09 UTC

i can't agree or disagree...i don't know baggett's history. i googled
him and saw one article that discredited him, and several that just
tout his abilities.
i just don't believe 'sharon' has been trained by him..i emailed him
to ask this particular question..waiting for word back...but since i
don't know 'sharons' last name, i used lon strickler, since this is
who 'sharon' really is anyway. like we all have noted already,
'sharon' is just a shill name for lon.
and to answer 'sharon's accusation..it's just a simple mistake on
whatever website lon is looking at towards getting my id...the rest of
the information is correct...i do love that lon does try to take out
the evidence brought against him, and change the subject towards my
age.. like that matters when the question before us is that strickler
sells forgeries. and i find it funny that a "friend" defends someone
so willingly and pronounces her abilities to show how to spot
forgeries...but the evidence is STACKED against her. and when i point
out that strickler's stuff looks nothing like anyone else's and he
points out provenance...STRICKLER'S STUFF HAS NO PROVENANCE EITHER.

i'm gonna keep pointing out strickler's forgeries because of all
this....it'll get tired and tedious, but this person should be in
jail! or at least out of the business.
m

Mr Black

2008-05-06 09:49:29 UTC

Post by barefoot
and yes, you have posted before, and gave sharon as a salutation, but
the name at the top wasn't northfield, but it acvtually said
"strickler's sports."

As much as it pains me, i completely agree with Barefoot.

You posted here from ***@aol.com with the user name "strickler
celebs" by complete accident imho.
You tried to stop the post going live once you noticed you were mailing from
the primary account rather than the dummy (northside) account, but it was
too late.

Here is a FACT you may not be aware of....you cant just suddenly end up with
a different user name and email addy merely because you tried to cut n paste
something....as you have claimed....its impossible..do you seriously think
we are all that stupid?

Mr Black

2008-05-06 09:37:42 UTC

i remember that

barefoot

2008-05-05 17:15:38 UTC

and a word on authentication.
sure, those companies all have their problems and some collectors all
have a problem with them..but at least something is being done to
clean up the hobby. this and actually getting the autograph yourself
is the only thing we got. slam it all you want, but it's better out
there than it once was.

and, if you have 1000+ items and NONE of them pass from the different
authenticators, wouldn't that raise a flag...cause that's what happens
at strickler's...to the point that he puts on his website that he
won't accept returns from any of the authentication houses unless it's
one of his (there's only one, him, he just masks different
names)...and every time one of the authentication houses makes a
mistake, he's quick to rub their noses in it...BUT EVERYTHING
STRICKLER SELLS IS A MISTAKE!!!THEY ARE ALL FAKES..

sorry, getting off my soapbox now!.
m,

Timmy

2008-05-05 02:35:01 UTC

Authentic? Get your items checked by a professional! I'd be willing to bet
if you sent your items from him to PSA/DNA, GAI, James Spence, and Rogger
Epperson, I'd bet they'd fail at each place. FYI, Strickler Sports used to
be a UACC member but now it appears they are no longer. I guess it's time
for Lon to start coming up with some smear campaign for the UACC to justify
his lack of membership status.

Post by bob catz
You mean Strickler Autographs? His stuff is authentic.

Post by barefoot
suem did you put strickler on your xlist?
m

Gummby3

2008-05-05 03:09:09 UTC

Maybe Strickler did buy some fakes in lots. Anybody that collects
autographs, unless you get EVERY one of them in person, has gotten a
bad apple in their collection at one point or another. If they say
that they haven't they are either 1) lying or 2) in denial. Again,
not to beat a dead horse, but the same question pops into my mind when
these "professionals" are brought up: Who authenticates the
authenticators? Since these people did not see the item signed
themselves, they are only guessing and taking people's money for
giving a 50/50 answer. It makes me think of those carnies that take
money to guess your weight... they might be right by approximating
weight by appearance or they might be wrong. These "authenticators"
are doing no more and no less. They state their opinion by comparing
to other examples, but everybody's signatures varies by day, year or
circumstance. I have convention-signed autographs by some celebs that
don't match examples on Autograph World and other reputable dealers,
but I have proof that the item was signed. Why were they different?
By the final day of a 3-day con and several hundred people, your
signature will not even look exactly like it did on the first day. :-)
--
Mike
Gummby3
-= Star Collector =-
www.star-collector.net
Celebrity addresses the way they should be - free.

Post by Timmy
Authentic? Get your items checked by a professional! I'd be
willing to bet if you sent your items from him to PSA/DNA, GAI,
James Spence, and Rogger Epperson, I'd bet they'd fail at each
place. FYI, Strickler Sports used to be a UACC member but now it
appears they are no longer. I guess it's time for Lon to start
coming up with some smear campaign for the UACC to justify his lack
of membership status.

Post by bob catz
You mean Strickler Autographs? His stuff is authentic.

Sue H

2008-05-05 14:35:21 UTC

Very true. My problem lies in the very good dealer who has good stuff
that starts getting sloppy or perhaps just greedy and then starts
buying things willy nilly and then turning it around without even
looking for it's authenticness and selling it to the general public
(and at absurd prices to boot). We cannot as consumers stand for it.
Posters for 1200-1900 bucks all forgeries? Hell no.

Post by Gummby3
Maybe Strickler did buy some fakes in lots. Anybody that collects
autographs, unless you get EVERY one of them in person, has gotten a
bad apple in their collection at one point or another. If they say
that they haven't they are either 1) lying or 2) in denial. Again,
not to beat a dead horse, but the same question pops into my mind when
these "professionals" are brought up: Who authenticates the
authenticators? Since these people did not see the item signed
themselves, they are only guessing and taking people's money for
giving a 50/50 answer. It makes me think of those carnies that take
money to guess your weight... they might be right by approximating
weight by appearance or they might be wrong. These "authenticators"
are doing no more and no less. They state their opinion by comparing
to other examples, but everybody's signatures varies by day, year or
circumstance. I have convention-signed autographs by some celebs that
don't match examples on Autograph World and other reputable dealers,
but I have proof that the item was signed. Why were they different?
By the final day of a 3-day con and several hundred people, your
signature will not even look exactly like it did on the first day. :-)

Mr Black

2008-05-05 04:41:12 UTC